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Is there a standard and accepted method for selecting the number of layers, and the number of nodes in each layer, in a FF NN? I'm interested in automated ways of building neural networks.

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I realize this question has been answered, but I don't think the extant answer really engages the question beyond pointing to a link generally related to the question's subject matter. In particular, the link describes one technique for programmatic network configuration, but that is not a "[a] standard and accepted method" for network configuration.

By following a small set of clear rules, one can programmatically set a competent network architecture (i.e., the number and type of neuronal layers and the number of neurons comprising each layer). Following this schema this will give you a competent architecture but probably not an optimal one.

But once this network is initialized, you can iteratively tune the configuration during training using a number of ancillary algorithms; one family of these works by pruning nodes based on (small) values of the weight vector after a certain number of training epochs--in other words, eliminating unnecessary/redundant nodes (more on this below).

So every NN has three types of layers: input, hidden, and output.

Creating the NN architecture therefore means coming up with values for the number of layers of each type and the number of nodes in each of these layers.

The Input Layer

Simple--every NN has exactly one of them--no exceptions that I'm aware of.

With respect to the number of neurons comprising this layer, this parameter is completely and uniquely determined once you know the shape of your training data. Specifically, the number of neurons comprising that layer is equal to the number of features (columns) in your data. Some NN configurations add one additional node for a bias term.

The Output Layer

Like the Input layer, every NN has exactly one output layer. Determining its size (number of neurons) is simple; it is completely determined by the chosen model configuration.

Is your NN going running in Machine Mode or Regression Mode (the ML convention of using a term that is also used in statistics but assigning a different meaning to it is very confusing). Machine mode: returns a class label (e.g., "Premium Account"/"Basic Account"). Regression Mode returns a value (e.g., price).

If the NN is a regressor, then the output layer has a single node.

If the NN is a classifier, then it also has a single node unless softmax is used in which case the output layer has one node per class label in your model.

The Hidden Layers

So those few rules set the number of layers and size (neurons/layer) for both the input and output layers. That leaves the hidden layers.

How many hidden layers? Well if your data is linearly separable (which you often know by the time you begin coding a NN) then you don't need any hidden layers at all. Of course, you don't need an NN to resolve your data either, but it will still do the job.

Beyond that, as you probably know, there's a mountain of commentary on the question of hidden layer configuration in NNs (see the insanely thorough and insightful NN FAQ for an excellent summary of that commentary). One issue within this subject on which there is a consensus is the performance difference from adding additional hidden layers: the situations in which performance improves with a second (or third, etc.) hidden layer are very small. One hidden layer is sufficient for the large majority of problems.

So what about size of the hidden layer(s)--how many neurons? There are some empirically-derived rules-of-thumb, of these, the most commonly relied on is 'the optimal size of the hidden layer is usually between the size of the input and size of the output layers'. Jeff Heaton, author of Introduction to Neural Networks in Java offers a few more.

In sum, for most problems, one could probably get decent performance (even without a second optimization step) by setting the hidden layer configuration using just two rules: (i) number of hidden layers equals one; and (ii) the number of neurons in that layer is the mean of the neurons in the input and output layers.

Optimization of the Network Configuration

Pruning describes a set of techniques to trim network size (by nodes not layers) to improve computational performance and sometimes resolution performance. The gist of these techniques is removing nodes from the network during training by identifying those nodes which, if removed from the network, would not noticeably affect network performance (i.e., resolution of the data). (Even without using a formal pruning technique, you can get a rough idea of which nodes are not important by looking at your weight matrix after training; look weights very close to zero--it's the nodes on either end of those weights that are often removed during pruning.) Obviously, if you use a pruning algorithm during training then begin with a network configuration that is more likely to have excess (i.e., 'prunable') nodes--in other words, when deciding on a network architecture, err on the side of more neurons, if you add a pruning step.

Put another way, by applying a pruning algorithm to your network during training, you can approach optimal network configuration; whether you can do that in a single "up-front" (such as a genetic-algorithm-based algorithm) I don't know, though I do know that for now, this two-step optimization is more common.

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Where's the famous NN FAQ located? :) – André Laszlo Jul 12 '11 at 1:16
apologies--i thought i had supplied the link: – doug Jul 12 '11 at 2:09
You state that for the majority of problems need only one hidden layer. Perhaps it is better to say that NNs with more hidden layers are extremly hard to train (if you want to know how, check the publications of Hinton's group at Uof Toronto, "deep learning") and thus those problems that require more than a hidden layer are considered "non solvable" by neural networks. – bayerj Jul 12 '11 at 12:50
You write If the NN is a regressor, then the output layer has a single node.. Why only a single node? Why can't I have multiple continuous outputs? – gerrit Nov 12 '12 at 15:46
I thought it was the opposite than this: If the NN is a classifier, then it also has a single node unless softmax is used in which case the output layer has one node per class label in your model. – davips Jan 17 '14 at 1:04

I am working on an empirical study of this at the moment (approching a processor-century of simulations on our HPC facility!). My advice would be to use a "large" network and regularisation, if you use regularisation then the network architecture becomes less important (provided it is large enough to represent the underlying function we want to capture), but you do need to tune the regularisation parameter properly.

One of the problems with architecture selection is that it is a discrete, rather than continuous, control of the complexity of the model, and therefore can be a bit of a blunt instrument, especially when the ideal complexity is low.

However, this is all subject to the "no free lunch" theorems, while regularisation is effective in most cases, there will always be cases where architecture selection works better, and the only way to find out if that is true of the problem at hand is to try both approaches and cross-validate.

If I were to build an automated neural network builder, I would use Radford Neal's Hybrid Monte Carlo (HMC) sampling-based Bayesian approach, and use a large network and integrate over the weights rather than optimise the weights of a single network. However that is computationally expensive and a bit of a "black art", but the results Prof. Neal achieves suggests it is worth it!

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+1, I like the insight that "architecture selection... is a discrete, rather than continuous, control of the complexity of the model". – gung Aug 30 '13 at 2:22

@doug's answer has worked for me. One additional rule of thumb for supervised learning networks, the upperbound on the number of hidden neurons that won't result in over-fitting is:

$$N_h = \frac{N_s} {(alpha * (N_i + N_o))}$$

$N_i$ = number of input neurons.
$N_o$ = number of output neurons.
$N_s$ = number of samples in training data set.
$alpha$ = an arbitrary scaling factor usually 2-10.

Others recommend setting $alpha$ to a value between 5 and 10, but I find a value of 2 will often work without overfitting. As explained by this excellent NN Design text, you want to limit the number of free parameters in your model (its degree or number of nonzero weights) to a small portion of the degrees of freedom in your data. The degrees of freedom in your data is the number samples * degrees of freedom (dimensions) in each sample or $N_s * (N_i + N_o)$ (assuming they're all independent). So alpha is a way to indicate how general you want your model to be, or how much you want to prevent overfitting.

For an automated procedure you'd start with an alpha of 2 (twice as many degrees of freedom in your training data as your model) and work your way up to 10 if the error for training data is significantly smaller than for the cross-validation data set.

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This formula is very interesting and helpful. Is there is any reference for this formula? It would be more helpful. – prashanth Feb 16 at 14:14
@prashanth I combined several assertions and formulas in the NN Design text referenced above. But I don't think it's explicitly called out in the form I show. And my version is a very crude approximation with a lot of simplifying assumptions. So YMMV. – hobs Feb 16 at 17:30
I don't see how training set size is relevant to this. What if your test set becomes larger later? Besides you want something that generalizes not something that can fit your training data. – kon psych Feb 22 at 6:50
@konpsych If your training set grows, and your model isn't fitting those new examples well, that's an opportunity to increase the number of neurons. However, you're right, theoretically. If you've developed a highly effective regularization approach (e.g. random dropout) and can generalize from a few examples to many test examples, then the training set DOF can be much less than your NN DOF. But I couldn't implement such an efficient "generalization engine" myself. The lowest I could go on "alpha" was a value of 2. – hobs Feb 22 at 14:51
First I wanted to write training set instead of test set in previous comment. Maybe this formula makes sense if we are to read it as "you need at least that many neurons to learn enough features (the DOF you mentioned) from dataset". If the features of dataset are representative of population and how well the model can generalize maybe it's a different question (but an important one). – kon psych Feb 22 at 22:07

As far as I know there is no way to select automatically the number of layers and neurons in each layer. But there are networks that can build automatically their topology, like EANN (Evolutionary Artificial Neural Networks, which use Genetic Algorithms to evolved the topology).

There are several approaches, a more or less modern one that seemed to give good results was NEAT (Neuro Evolution of Augmented Topologies). You can get more info:

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From "Introduction to Neural Networks for Java, Second Edition" (preview freely available at Google Books and previously at the author's (Jeff Heaton) website.

The Number of Hidden Layers

There are really two decisions that must be made regarding the hidden layers: how many hidden layers to actually have in the neural network and how many neurons will be in each of these layers. We will first examine how to determine the number of hidden layers to use with the neural network.

Problems that require two hidden layers are rarely encountered. However, neural networks with two hidden layers can represent functions with any kind of shape. There is currently no theoretical reason to use neural networks with any more than two hidden layers. In fact, for many practical problems, there is no reason to use any more than one hidden layer. Table 5.1 summarizes the capabilities of neural network architectures with various hidden layers.

Table 5.1: Determining the Number of Hidden Layers

| Number of Hidden Layers | Result |

 0 - Only capable of representing linear separable functions or decisions.

 1 - Can approximate any function that contains a continuous mapping
from one finite space to another.

 2 - Can represent an arbitrary decision boundary to arbitrary accuracy
with rational activation functions and can approximate any smooth
mapping to any accuracy.

Deciding the number of hidden neuron layers is only a small part of the problem. You must also determine how many neurons will be in each of these hidden layers. This process is covered in the next section.

The Number of Neurons in the Hidden Layers

Deciding the number of neurons in the hidden layers is a very important part of deciding your overall neural network architecture. Though these layers do not directly interact with the external environment, they have a tremendous influence on the final output. Both the number of hidden layers and the number of neurons in each of these hidden layers must be carefully considered.

Using too few neurons in the hidden layers will result in something called underfitting. Underfitting occurs when there are too few neurons in the hidden layers to adequately detect the signals in a complicated data set.

Using too many neurons in the hidden layers can result in several problems. First, too many neurons in the hidden layers may result in overfitting. Overfitting occurs when the neural network has so much information processing capacity that the limited amount of information contained in the training set is not enough to train all of the neurons in the hidden layers. A second problem can occur even when the training data is sufficient. An inordinately large number of neurons in the hidden layers can increase the time it takes to train the network. The amount of training time can increase to the point that it is impossible to adequately train the neural network. Obviously, some compromise must be reached between too many and too few neurons in the hidden layers.

There are many rule-of-thumb methods for determining the correct number of neurons to use in the hidden layers, such as the following:

  • The number of hidden neurons should be between the size of the input layer and the size of the output layer.
  • The number of hidden neurons should be 2/3 the size of the input layer, plus the size of the output layer.
  • The number of hidden neurons should be less than twice the size of the input layer.

These three rules provide a starting point for you to consider. Ultimately, the selection of an architecture for your neural network will come down to trial and error. But what exactly is meant by trial and error? You do not want to start throwing random numbers of layers and neurons at your network. To do so would be very time consuming. Chapter 8, “Pruning a Neural Network” will explore various ways to determine an optimal structure for a neural network.

Also, from an answer I found at

Steffen B Petersen · Aalborg University

[...] In order to secure the ability of the network to generalize the number of nodes has to be kept as low as possible. If you have a large excess of nodes, you network becomes a memory bank that can recall the training set to perfection, but does not perform well on samples that was not part of the training set.

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I have tried to use Alyuda neurointelligence software to select the best network topology and it seemed to produce some good results, at least for the project I was doing. It uses genetic algorithm to select an optimal network topology

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Automated ways of building neural networks using global hyper-parameter search:

Input and output layers are fixed size.

What can vary:

  • the number of layers
  • number of neurons in each layer
  • the type of layer

Multiple methods can be used for this discrete optimization problem, with the network out of sample error as the cost function.

  • 1) Grid / random search over the parameter space, to start from a slightly better position
  • 2) Plenty of methods that could be used for finding the optimal architecture. (Yes, it takes time).
  • 3) Do some regularization, rinse, repeat.
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• Number of hidden nodes: There is no magic formula for selecting the optimum number of hidden neurons. However, some thumb rules are available for calculating number of hidden neurons. A rough approximation can be obtained by the geometric pyramid rule proposed by Masters (1993). For a three layer network with n input and m output neurons, the hidden layer would have $sqrt(n*m)$ neurons.


[1] Masters, Timothy. Practical neural network recipes in C++. Morgan Kaufmann, 1993.


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