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I'm somewhat new to using logistic regression, and a bit confused by a discrepancy between my interpretations of the following values which I thought would be the same:

  • exponentiated beta values
  • predicted probability of the outcome using beta values.

Here is a simplified version of the model I am using, where undernutrition and insurance are both binary, and wealth is continuous:

Under.Nutrition ~ insurance + wealth

My (actual) model returns an exponentiated beta value of .8 for insurance, which I would interpret as:

"The probability of being undernourished for an insured individual is .8 times the probability of being undernourished for an uninsured individual."

However, when I calculate the difference in probabilities for individuals by putting in values of 0 and 1 into the insurance variable and the mean value for wealth, the difference in undernutrition is only .04. That is calculated as follows:

Probability Undernourished = exp(β0 + β1*Insurance + β2*Wealth) /
                             (1+exp(β0 + β1*Insurance + β2*wealth))

I would really appreciate it if someone could explain why these values are different, and what a better interpretation (particularly for the second value) might be.


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As I understand it, the probability of being under-nourished for an uninsured person (where B1 corresponds to insurance) is:

Prob(Unins) = exp(β0 + β1*0 + β2*Wealth) /
                             (1+exp(β0 + β1*0+ β2*wealth))

While the Probability of being under-nourished for an insured person is:

Prob(Ins)= exp(β0 + β1*1 + β2*Wealth) /
                             (1+exp(β0 + β1*1+ β2*wealth))

The odds of being undernourished for an uninsured person compared to an insured person is:

exp(B1)

Is there a way to translate between these values (mathematically)? I'm still a bit confused by this equation (where I should probably be a different value on the RHS):

Prob(Ins) - Prob(Unins) != exp(B)

In lam-en'slayman's terms, the question is why doesn't insuring an individual change their probability of being under-nourished as much as the odds ratio indicates it does? In my data, Prob(Ins) - Prob(Unins) = .04, where the exponentiated beta value is .8 (so why is the difference not .2?)

I'm somewhat new to using logistic regression, and a bit confused by a discrepancy between my interpretations of the following values which I thought would be the same:

  • exponentiated beta values
  • predicted probability of the outcome using beta values.

Here is a simplified version of the model I am using, where undernutrition and insurance are both binary, and wealth is continuous:

Under.Nutrition ~ insurance + wealth

My (actual) model returns an exponentiated beta value of .8 for insurance, which I would interpret as:

"The probability of being undernourished for an insured individual is .8 times the probability of being undernourished for an uninsured individual."

However, when I calculate the difference in probabilities for individuals by putting in values of 0 and 1 into the insurance variable and the mean value for wealth, the difference in undernutrition is only .04. That is calculated as follows:

Probability Undernourished = exp(β0 + β1*Insurance + β2*Wealth) /
                             (1+exp(β0 + β1*Insurance + β2*wealth))

I would really appreciate it if someone could explain why these values are different, and what a better interpretation (particularly for the second value) might be.


Further Clarification Edits
As I understand it, the probability of being under-nourished for an uninsured person (where B1 corresponds to insurance) is:

Prob(Unins) = exp(β0 + β1*0 + β2*Wealth) /
                             (1+exp(β0 + β1*0+ β2*wealth))

While the Probability of being under-nourished for an insured person is:

Prob(Ins)= exp(β0 + β1*1 + β2*Wealth) /
                             (1+exp(β0 + β1*1+ β2*wealth))

The odds of being undernourished for an uninsured person compared to an insured person is:

exp(B1)

Is there a way to translate between these values (mathematically)? I'm still a bit confused by this equation (where I should probably be a different value on the RHS):

Prob(Ins) - Prob(Unins) != exp(B)

In lam-en's terms, the question is why doesn't insuring an individual change their probability of being under-nourished as much as the odds ratio indicates it does? In my data, Prob(Ins) - Prob(Unins) = .04, where the exponentiated beta value is .8 (so why is the difference not .2?)

I'm somewhat new to using logistic regression, and a bit confused by a discrepancy between my interpretations of the following values which I thought would be the same:

  • exponentiated beta values
  • predicted probability of the outcome using beta values.

Here is a simplified version of the model I am using, where undernutrition and insurance are both binary, and wealth is continuous:

Under.Nutrition ~ insurance + wealth

My (actual) model returns an exponentiated beta value of .8 for insurance, which I would interpret as:

"The probability of being undernourished for an insured individual is .8 times the probability of being undernourished for an uninsured individual."

However, when I calculate the difference in probabilities for individuals by putting in values of 0 and 1 into the insurance variable and the mean value for wealth, the difference in undernutrition is only .04. That is calculated as follows:

Probability Undernourished = exp(β0 + β1*Insurance + β2*Wealth) /
                             (1+exp(β0 + β1*Insurance + β2*wealth))

I would really appreciate it if someone could explain why these values are different, and what a better interpretation (particularly for the second value) might be.


Further Clarification Edits
As I understand it, the probability of being under-nourished for an uninsured person (where B1 corresponds to insurance) is:

Prob(Unins) = exp(β0 + β1*0 + β2*Wealth) /
              (1+exp(β0 + β1*0+ β2*wealth))

While the Probability of being under-nourished for an insured person is:

Prob(Ins)= exp(β0 + β1*1 + β2*Wealth) /
           (1+exp(β0 + β1*1+ β2*wealth))

The odds of being undernourished for an uninsured person compared to an insured person is:

exp(B1)

Is there a way to translate between these values (mathematically)? I'm still a bit confused by this equation (where I should probably be a different value on the RHS):

Prob(Ins) - Prob(Unins) != exp(B)

In layman's terms, the question is why doesn't insuring an individual change their probability of being under-nourished as much as the odds ratio indicates it does? In my data, Prob(Ins) - Prob(Unins) = .04, where the exponentiated beta value is .8 (so why is the difference not .2?)

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Interpretation of simple predictions to Odds Ratiosodds ratios in Logistic Regressionlogistic regression

I'm somewhat new to using logistic regression, and a bit confused by a discrepancy between my interpretations of the following values which I thought would be the same:

  • exponentiated beta values
  • predicted probability of the outcome using beta values.

Here is a simplified version of the model I am using, where undernutrition and insurance are both binary, and wealth is continuous:

Under.Nutrition ~ insurance + wealth

My (actual) model returns an exponentiated beta value of .8 for insurance, which I would interpret as:

"The probability of being undernourished for an insured individual is .8 times the probability of being undernourished for an uninsured individual."

However, when I calculate the difference in probabilities for individuals by putting in values of 0 and 1 into the insurance variable and the mean value for wealth, the difference in undernutrition is only .04. That is calculated as follows:

Probability Undernourished = exp(β0 + β1*Insurance + β2*Wealth) /
                             (1+exp(β0 + β1*Insurance + β2*wealth))

I would really appreciate it if someone could explain why these values are different, and what a better interpretation (particularly for the second value) might be.

 

********** Further Clarification Edits ************Further Clarification Edits
As I understand it, the probability of being under-nourished for an uninsured person (where B1 corresponds to insurance) is:

Prob(Unins) = exp(β0 + β1*0 + β2*Wealth) /
                             (1+exp(β0 + β1*0+ β2*wealth))

While the Probability of being under-nourished for an insured person is:

Prob(Ins)= exp(β0 + β1*1 + β2*Wealth) /
                             (1+exp(β0 + β1*1+ β2*wealth))

The odds of being undernourished for an uninsured person compared to an insured person is:

exp(B1)

Is there a way to translate between these values (mathematically)? I'm still a bit confused by this equation (where I should probably be a different value on the RHS):

Prob(Ins) - Prob(Unins) != exp(B)

In lam-en's terms, the question is why doesn't insuring an individual change their probability of being under-nourished as much as the odds ratio indicates it does? In my data, Prob(Ins) - Prob(Unins) = .04, where the exponentiated beta value is .8 (so why is the difference not .2?)

Interpretation of simple predictions to Odds Ratios in Logistic Regression

I'm somewhat new to using logistic regression, and a bit confused by a discrepancy between my interpretations of the following values which I thought would be the same:

  • exponentiated beta values
  • predicted probability of the outcome using beta values.

Here is a simplified version of the model I am using, where undernutrition and insurance are both binary, and wealth is continuous:

Under.Nutrition ~ insurance + wealth

My (actual) model returns an exponentiated beta value of .8 for insurance, which I would interpret as:

"The probability of being undernourished for an insured individual is .8 times the probability of being undernourished for an uninsured individual."

However, when I calculate the difference in probabilities for individuals by putting in values of 0 and 1 into the insurance variable and the mean value for wealth, the difference in undernutrition is only .04. That is calculated as follows:

Probability Undernourished = exp(β0 + β1*Insurance + β2*Wealth) /
                             (1+exp(β0 + β1*Insurance + β2*wealth))

I would really appreciate it if someone could explain why these values are different, and what a better interpretation (particularly for the second value) might be.

********** Further Clarification Edits ************ As I understand it, the probability of being under-nourished for an uninsured person (where B1 corresponds to insurance) is:

Prob(Unins) = exp(β0 + β1*0 + β2*Wealth) /
                             (1+exp(β0 + β1*0+ β2*wealth))

While the Probability of being under-nourished for an insured person is:

Prob(Ins)= exp(β0 + β1*1 + β2*Wealth) /
                             (1+exp(β0 + β1*1+ β2*wealth))

The odds of being undernourished for an uninsured person compared to an insured person is:

exp(B1)

Is there a way to translate between these values (mathematically)? I'm still a bit confused by this equation (where I should probably be a different value on the RHS):

Prob(Ins) - Prob(Unins) != exp(B)

In lam-en's terms, the question is why doesn't insuring an individual change their probability of being under-nourished as much as the odds ratio indicates it does? In my data, Prob(Ins) - Prob(Unins) = .04, where the exponentiated beta value is .8 (so why is the difference not .2?)

Interpretation of simple predictions to odds ratios in logistic regression

I'm somewhat new to using logistic regression, and a bit confused by a discrepancy between my interpretations of the following values which I thought would be the same:

  • exponentiated beta values
  • predicted probability of the outcome using beta values.

Here is a simplified version of the model I am using, where undernutrition and insurance are both binary, and wealth is continuous:

Under.Nutrition ~ insurance + wealth

My (actual) model returns an exponentiated beta value of .8 for insurance, which I would interpret as:

"The probability of being undernourished for an insured individual is .8 times the probability of being undernourished for an uninsured individual."

However, when I calculate the difference in probabilities for individuals by putting in values of 0 and 1 into the insurance variable and the mean value for wealth, the difference in undernutrition is only .04. That is calculated as follows:

Probability Undernourished = exp(β0 + β1*Insurance + β2*Wealth) /
                             (1+exp(β0 + β1*Insurance + β2*wealth))

I would really appreciate it if someone could explain why these values are different, and what a better interpretation (particularly for the second value) might be.

 

Further Clarification Edits
As I understand it, the probability of being under-nourished for an uninsured person (where B1 corresponds to insurance) is:

Prob(Unins) = exp(β0 + β1*0 + β2*Wealth) /
                             (1+exp(β0 + β1*0+ β2*wealth))

While the Probability of being under-nourished for an insured person is:

Prob(Ins)= exp(β0 + β1*1 + β2*Wealth) /
                             (1+exp(β0 + β1*1+ β2*wealth))

The odds of being undernourished for an uninsured person compared to an insured person is:

exp(B1)

Is there a way to translate between these values (mathematically)? I'm still a bit confused by this equation (where I should probably be a different value on the RHS):

Prob(Ins) - Prob(Unins) != exp(B)

In lam-en's terms, the question is why doesn't insuring an individual change their probability of being under-nourished as much as the odds ratio indicates it does? In my data, Prob(Ins) - Prob(Unins) = .04, where the exponentiated beta value is .8 (so why is the difference not .2?)

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I'm somewhat new to using logistic regression, and a bit confused by a discrepancy between my interpretations of the following values which I thought would be the same:

  • exponentiated beta values
  • predicted probability of the outcome using beta values.

Here is a simplified version of the model I am using, where undernutrition and insurance are both binary, and wealth is continuous:

Under.Nutrition ~ insurance + wealth

My (actual) model returns an exponentiated beta value of .8 for insurance, which I would interpret as:

"The probability of being undernourished for an insured individual is .8 times the probability of being undernourished for an uninsured individual."

However, when I calculate the difference in probabilities for individuals by putting in values of 0 and 1 into the insurance variable and the mean value for wealth, the difference in undernutrition is only .04. That is calculated as follows:

Probability Undernourished = exp(β0 + β1*Insurance + β2*Wealth) /
                             (1+exp(β0 + β1*Insurance + β2*wealth))

I would really appreciate it if someone could explain why these values are different, and what a better interpretation (particularly for the second value) might be.

********** Further Clarification Edits ************ As I understand it, the probability of being under-nourished for an uninsured person (where B1 corresponds to insurance) is:

Prob(Unins) = exp(β0 + β1*0 + β2*Wealth) /
                             (1+exp(β0 + β1*0+ β2*wealth))

While the Probability of being under-nourished for an insured person is:

Prob(Ins)= exp(β0 + β1*1 + β2*Wealth) /
                             (1+exp(β0 + β1*1+ β2*wealth))

The odds of being undernourished for an uninsured person compared to an insured person is:

exp(B1)

Is there a way to translate between these values (mathematically)? I'm still a bit confused by this equation (where I should probably be a different value on the RHS):

Prob(Ins) - Prob(Unins) != exp(B)

In lam-en's terms, the question is why doesn't insuring an individual change their probability of being under-nourished as much as the odds ratio indicates it does? In my data, Prob(Ins) - Prob(Unins) = .04, where the exponentiated beta value is .8 (so why is the difference not .2?)

I'm somewhat new to using logistic regression, and a bit confused by a discrepancy between my interpretations of the following values which I thought would be the same:

  • exponentiated beta values
  • predicted probability of the outcome using beta values.

Here is a simplified version of the model I am using, where undernutrition and insurance are both binary, and wealth is continuous:

Under.Nutrition ~ insurance + wealth

My (actual) model returns an exponentiated beta value of .8 for insurance, which I would interpret as:

"The probability of being undernourished for an insured individual is .8 times the probability of being undernourished for an uninsured individual."

However, when I calculate the difference in probabilities for individuals by putting in values of 0 and 1 into the insurance variable and the mean value for wealth, the difference in undernutrition is only .04. That is calculated as follows:

Probability Undernourished = exp(β0 + β1*Insurance + β2*Wealth) /
                             (1+exp(β0 + β1*Insurance + β2*wealth))

I would really appreciate it if someone could explain why these values are different, and what a better interpretation (particularly for the second value) might be.

I'm somewhat new to using logistic regression, and a bit confused by a discrepancy between my interpretations of the following values which I thought would be the same:

  • exponentiated beta values
  • predicted probability of the outcome using beta values.

Here is a simplified version of the model I am using, where undernutrition and insurance are both binary, and wealth is continuous:

Under.Nutrition ~ insurance + wealth

My (actual) model returns an exponentiated beta value of .8 for insurance, which I would interpret as:

"The probability of being undernourished for an insured individual is .8 times the probability of being undernourished for an uninsured individual."

However, when I calculate the difference in probabilities for individuals by putting in values of 0 and 1 into the insurance variable and the mean value for wealth, the difference in undernutrition is only .04. That is calculated as follows:

Probability Undernourished = exp(β0 + β1*Insurance + β2*Wealth) /
                             (1+exp(β0 + β1*Insurance + β2*wealth))

I would really appreciate it if someone could explain why these values are different, and what a better interpretation (particularly for the second value) might be.

********** Further Clarification Edits ************ As I understand it, the probability of being under-nourished for an uninsured person (where B1 corresponds to insurance) is:

Prob(Unins) = exp(β0 + β1*0 + β2*Wealth) /
                             (1+exp(β0 + β1*0+ β2*wealth))

While the Probability of being under-nourished for an insured person is:

Prob(Ins)= exp(β0 + β1*1 + β2*Wealth) /
                             (1+exp(β0 + β1*1+ β2*wealth))

The odds of being undernourished for an uninsured person compared to an insured person is:

exp(B1)

Is there a way to translate between these values (mathematically)? I'm still a bit confused by this equation (where I should probably be a different value on the RHS):

Prob(Ins) - Prob(Unins) != exp(B)

In lam-en's terms, the question is why doesn't insuring an individual change their probability of being under-nourished as much as the odds ratio indicates it does? In my data, Prob(Ins) - Prob(Unins) = .04, where the exponentiated beta value is .8 (so why is the difference not .2?)

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