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I developed the ez package for R as a means to help folks transition from stats packages like SPSS to R. This is (hopefully) achieved by simplifying the specification of various flavours of ANOVA, and providing SPSS-like output (including effect sizes and assumption tests), among other features. The ezANOVA() function mostly serves as a wrapper to car::Anova(), but the current version of ezANOVA() implements only type-II sums of squares, whereas car::Anova() permits specification of either type-II or -III sums of squares. As I possibly should have expected, several users have requested that I provide an argument in ezANOVA() that lets the user request type-II or type-III. I have been reticent to do so and outline my reasoning below, but I would appreciate the community's input on my or any other reasoning that bears on the issue.

Reasons for not including a "SS_type" argument in ezANOVA():

  1. The difference between type I, II, and III sum squares only crops up when data are unbalanced, in which case I'd say that more benefit is derived from ameliorating imbalance by further data collection than fiddling with the ANOVA computation.
  2. The difference between type II and III applies to lower-order effects that are qualified by higher-order effects, in which case I consider the lower-order effects scientifically uninteresting. (But see below for possible complication of the argument)
  3. For those rare circumstances when (1) and (2) don't apply (when further data collection is impossible and the researcher has a valid scientific interest in a qualified main effect that I can't currently imagine), one can relatively easily modify the ezANOVA() source or employ car::Anova() itself to achieve type III tests. In this way, I see the extra effort/understanding required to obtain type III tests as a means by which I can ensure that only those that really know what they're doing go that route.

Now, the most recent type-III requestor pointed out that argument (2) is undermined by consideration of circumstances where extant but "non-significant" higher-order effects can bias computation of sums of squares for lower-order effects. In such cases it's imaginable that a researcher would look to the higher-order effect, and seeing that it is "non-significant", turn to attempting interpretation of the lower-order effects that, unbeknownst to the researcher, have been compromised. My initial reaction is that this is not a problem with sums of squares, but with p-values and the tradition of null hypothesis testing. I suspect that a more explicit measure of evidence, such as the likelihood ratio, might be more likely to yield a less ambiguous picture of the models supported consistent with the data. However, I haven't done much thinking on the consequence of unbalanced data for the computation of likelihood ratios (which indeed involve sums of squares), so I'll have to give this some further thought.

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    $\begingroup$ Shortly - yes. Simply to allow consistency with other packages (even if the result was "wrong" in some way - in which case a warning massage would be fine). And thank you for your amazing package! $\endgroup$
    – Tal Galili
    Commented Jan 13, 2011 at 11:08
  • $\begingroup$ When I wrote "packages" I meant other statistical packages (like SPSS and SAS) - I'm glad others have driven the point further home then I did :) $\endgroup$
    – Tal Galili
    Commented Jan 13, 2011 at 20:00
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    $\begingroup$ As many already know, the current ez package (version 3) has updated ezANOVA, which has arguments for SS Type and return aov model. $\endgroup$
    – jiggysoo
    Commented Jul 4, 2011 at 21:32

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Just to amplify - I am the most recent requestor, I believe.

In specific comment on Mike's points:

  1. It's clearly true that the I/II/III difference only applies with correlated predictors (of which unbalanced designs are the most common example, certainly in factorial ANOVA) - but this seems to me to be an argument that dismisses the analysis of the unbalanced situation (and hence any Type I/II/III debate). It may be imperfect, but that's the way things happen (and in many contexts the costs of further data collection outweigh the statistical problem, caveats notwithstanding).

  2. This is completely fair and represents the meat of most of the "II versus III, favouring II" arguments I've come across. The best summary I've encountered is Langsrud (2003) "ANOVA for unbalanced data: Use Type II instead of Type III sums of squares", Statistics and Computing 13: 163-167 (I have a PDF if the original is hard to find). He argues (taking the two-factor case as the basic example) that if there's an interaction, there's an interaction, so consideration of main effects is usually meaningless (an obviously fair point) - and if there's no interaction, the Type II analysis of main effects is more powerful than the Type III (undoubtedly), so you should always go with Type II. I've seen other arguments (e.g. Venables, Fox) that emphasize the meaning (or lack of) of considering hypotheses about main effects in the presence of interactions, and/or/equivalently suggesting that the Type III assumptions about the null hypothesis are often not sensible (e.g. Langsrud).

  3. And I agree with this: if you have an interaction but have some question about the main effect as well, then you're probably into do-it-yourself territory.

Clearly there are those who just want Type III because SPSS does it, or some other reference to statistical Higher Authority. I am not wholly against this view, if it comes down to a choice of a lot of people sticking with SPSS (which I have some things against, namely time, money, and licence expiry conditions) and Type III SS, or a lot of people shifting to R and Type III SS. However, this argument is clearly a lame one statistically.

However, the argument that I found rather more substantial in favour of Type III is that made independently by Myers & Well (2003, "Research Design and Statistical Analysis", pp. 323, 626-629) and Maxwell & Delaney (2004, "Designing Experiments and Analyzing Data: A Model Comparison Perspective", pp. 324-328, 332-335). That is as follows:

  • if there's an interaction, all methods give the same result for the interaction sum of squares
  • Type II assumes that there's no interaction for its test of main effects; type III doesn't
  • Some (e.g. Langsrud) argue that if the interaction is not significant, then you're justified in assuming that there isn't one, and looking at the (more powerful) Type II main effects
  • But if the test of the interaction is underpowered, yet there is an interaction, the interaction may come out "non-significant" yet still lead to a violation of the assumptions of the Type II main effects test, biasing those tests to be too liberal.
  • Myers & Well cite Appelbaum/Cramer as the primary proponents of the Type II approach, and go on [p323]: "... More conservative criteria for nonsignificance of the interaction could be used, such as requiring that the interaction not be significant at the .25 level, but there is insufficient understanding of the consequences of even this approach. As a general rule, Type II sums of sqaures should not be calculated unless there is strong a priori reason to assume no interaction effects, and a clearly nonsignificant interaction sum of squares." They cite [p629] Overall, Lee & Hornick 1981 as a demonstration that interactions that do not approach significance can bias tests of main effects. Maxwell & Delaney [p334] advocate the Type II approach if the population interaction is zero, for power, and the Type III approach if it isn't [for the interpretability of means derived from this approach]. They too advocate using Type III in the real-life situation (when you're making inferences about the presence of the interaction from the data) because of the problem of making a type 2 [underpowered] error in the interaction test and thus accidentally violating the assumptions of the Type II SS approach; they then make similar further points to Myers & Well, and note the long debate on this issue!

So my interpretation (and I'm no expert!) is that there's plenty of Higher Statistical Authority on both sides of the argument; that the usual arguments put forward aren't about the usual situation that would give rise to problems (that situation being the common one of interpreting main effects with a non-significant interaction); and that there are fair reasons to be concerned about the Type II approach in that situation (and it comes down to a power versus potential over-liberalism thing).

For me, that's enough to wish for the Type III option in ezANOVA, as well as Type II, because (for my money) it's a superb interface to R's ANOVA systems. R is some way from being easy to use for novices, in my view, and the "ez" package, with ezANOVA and the rather lovely effect plotting functions, goes a long way towards making R accessible to a more general research audience. Some of my thoughts-in-progress (and a nasty hack for ezANOVA) are at http://www.psychol.cam.ac.uk/statistics/R/anova.html .

Would be interested to hear everyone's thoughts!

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  • $\begingroup$ Ah, I hadn't realized that the type II/III distinction arises whenever predictors are correlated, of which an unbalanced design is only one example. This certainly further undermines my first "just collect more data" argument. $\endgroup$ Commented Jan 13, 2011 at 13:46
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    $\begingroup$ I'm rather convinced by your argument that R will gain more SPSS converts if they are provided with easy means of achieving familiar analyses, even if these analyses require more nuanced consideration than is typically applied. Then, once we have them hooked on R, we can attempt to convince them that the familiar approach isn't necessarily always the appropriate approach. I think I'll still put the default as type=2 with a big warning in the documentation that this default may yield results that differ from SPSS and links do documentation on the type II/III distinction. $\endgroup$ Commented Jan 13, 2011 at 13:47
  • $\begingroup$ Other variations on correlated predictors are usually with continuous predictors, but yes, that's the general problem. // That sounds great to me! Sometimes these shifts are slow; the use of sphericity corrections (rather than ignoring the problem) is one that I think progress has been made on in neuroscience. There were times when any mention of it (particularly if you reported the corrected, non-integer df) made referees think you were barking. $\endgroup$ Commented Jan 13, 2011 at 14:42
  • $\begingroup$ I'd like to add that the Type III arguments are all about conservative or liberal hypothesis tests but not about the meaning of the components. A main effect in Type III just isn't sensible because it includes the interaction with missing main effects. Regardless of the conservative or liberal testing issues basic model coherence requires Type II because a Type II main effect makes sense. That said, ezANOVA should have Type III for other reasons. $\endgroup$
    – John
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Caveat: a purely non-statistical answer. I prefer to work with one function (or at least one package) when doing the same type of analysis (e.g., ANOVA). Up to now, I consistently use Anova() since I prefer its syntax for specifying models with repeated measures - compared to aov(), and lose little (SS type I) with non-repeated measures. ezANOVA() is nice for the added benefit of effect sizes. But What I don't particularly like is having to deal with 3 different functions to do essentially the same type of analysis, just because one of them implements feature X (but not Y), and the other one Y (but not X).

For ANOVA, I can choose between oneway(), lm(), aov(), Anova(), ezANOVA(), and probably others. When teaching R, it already is a pain to explain the different options, how they relate to each other (aov() is a wrapper for lm()), and which function does what:

  • oneway() only for single factor designs but with option var.equal=FALSE. No such option in aov() and others, but those functions also for multifactorial designs.
  • syntax for repeated measures a bit complicated in aov(), better in Anova()
  • convenient SS type I only in aov(), not in Anova()
  • convenient SS type II and III only in Anova(), not in aov()
  • convenient effect size measures in ezANOVA(), not in others

It would be neat to only have to teach one function with one consistent syntax that does it all. Without convenient SS type III, ezANOVA() can't be that function for me because I know that students will be asked to use them at some point ("just cross-check these results that John Doe got with SPSS"). I feel it's better to have the option to make the choice oneself without having to learn yet another syntax for specifying models. The "I know what's best for you" attitude may have its merits, but can be over-protective.

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    $\begingroup$ To add one further requirement: It would be totally awesome if the function would also be able to run all kinds of contrasts from this ANOVA, for example, using the multcomp package (which, as far as I remeber, requires aov objects). Otherwise, I agree totally and normally use ez for my daily duty, because it is so easy... $\endgroup$
    – Henrik
    Commented Jan 13, 2011 at 12:06
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    $\begingroup$ adding a "method" argument (with possible values as "oneway","aov", and "Anova", and with a "..." argument to pass var.eq=FALSE to oneway and type=2 to Anova) is an intriguing idea, and it certainly seems that it would be easy enough to incorporate. Thanks for the suggestion. $\endgroup$ Commented Jan 13, 2011 at 13:32
  • $\begingroup$ @Henrik: I have to be honest that my understanding of contrasts is very limited, and I never use them in my research, so I haven't prioritized incorporation of contrasts into ez. $\endgroup$ Commented Jan 13, 2011 at 13:36
  • $\begingroup$ @Mike If you can add the method argument and so your function would be able to return an aov element that would be great. So far I am usually to lazy to make my own aov element and use you ezANOVA instead with t.tests... $\endgroup$
    – Henrik
    Commented Jan 13, 2011 at 13:49
  • $\begingroup$ @Mike I hadn't dared suggesting something like that since it's your work you're putting in. Thanks for that! The ez package has some great potential: in psychology, it's already recommended quite often (cf. German book "R für Einsteiger" by Luhmann). Making it even more flexible would certainly be appreciated. $\endgroup$
    – caracal
    Commented Jan 13, 2011 at 14:01
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The R-world doesn't like Type 3 SS to much.

One of the usually cited references is the "Exegeses on Linear Models" by Bill Venables (2000).

I hope I am not misciting him, but I think his main argument is that Type 3 SS violate the marginality principle of linear models and are therefore not reasonable.

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This has been an eye-opening debate on the type-II/III issue for me. Thanks for everyone's the effort in providing the discussion. I'd come round to the view of promoting type-II consistently over type-III, but had a weak grasp on the argument - I just relied on the advice in John fox's regression book (car) that advised type-III tests were rarely interpretable (well, I think he said that...).

Anyway- ezANOVA is really useful for permitting access to R functionality that would otherwise be impossible for undergraduates I teach in psychology. I provide online R modules, one featuring ezANOVA to demonstrate mixed ANOVA designs (though it seems pre version 3 may have been buggy for this ... doh!)

Try it out here:

http://www.wessa.net/rwasp_Mixed%20Model%20ANOVA.wasp

after the module loads (~10s) find the compute button (half way down the page) and it will run ezANOVA and associated tables and plots.

Ian

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  • $\begingroup$ When you say that ez was buggy for mixed ANOVA designs, are you basing this on my recent announcement of version 3.0 in which I note that there was a bug in the ezMixed() code? If so, I think you misinterpreted that note. ezMixed() isn't related to ezANOVA(). ezMixed() serves to help assess the influence of fixed effects in a mixed effects modelling context. $\endgroup$ Commented Feb 8, 2011 at 23:24
  • $\begingroup$ HI Mike - you are quite right - it was your note on ezMixed() I read and misinterpreted this for ezANOVA(). $\endgroup$
    – user3112
    Commented Feb 10, 2011 at 1:15

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