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I previously wondered about the possibility of predicting events by exclusion and I was convened that this is a sort of 'Gambler's fallacy' my previous example was like this:

Early discovery of diseases help treating them early before complications occur. Suppose I estimate that a disease ,which is rare, occurs in 1% of patients coming to my department,. Among 1000 patients who came to the hospital, I excluded 800 of them ,by doing some cheap diagnostics,. Do the probability change among the rest 200 patients ?

Now I have a problem combining this with the Monty hall problem , So I repeat the question in a Monty hall style :

I have 10 doors,or patients,one of them has the rare disease(gold). Each door has either yes or no. you've select one door as it contains yes (so the probability that your door is correct is 1 in 10). Now Monty will show you that in the rest (9 doors), eight have 'no', will you change your choice? ,i.e. you will insist on your first choice, or move to the other door.

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    $\begingroup$ I think this only works if you know how many yes and no's are there to begin with. In the Monty Hall problem we know there is 1 car and two goats. If you don't know how many goats or cars, but only a probability I'm not sure it works. Perhaps try solving the Monty hall problem with a probability of goat or car existing to gain some insight? $\endgroup$ Commented Feb 25, 2016 at 18:11
  • $\begingroup$ I noticed this, so I edited and added 'one of the ten has the rare disease'. Is that what you mean? $\endgroup$
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    $\begingroup$ Ah in this case you only have 1/10 chance of selecting the disease door initially which means you will select a non-disease door 90% of the time. So if you switch doors you will have a 90% chance of selecting the disease door. Thus you would NOT want to switch. This is like a reverse Monte Hall where there are 2 cars and one goat. $\endgroup$ Commented Feb 25, 2016 at 18:52
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    $\begingroup$ Well actually this is assuming you don't want to select the disease door... of course if you did want to select it you would want to switch and have a 90% chance... Guess I have a tendency to not want to open doors containing diseases... $\endgroup$ Commented Feb 25, 2016 at 18:59
  • $\begingroup$ You might want to check out some Miller and Sanjurjo's recent work on the hot hand and gamblers fallacy. Based on their formulation, I'd hazard that yes, the probability that the next patient has the disease is actually greater than 1%. $\endgroup$ Commented Feb 25, 2016 at 20:36

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You pick the door, say $d_1$. The unconditional probability that it has gold is $P(A)=1/N$, where $A$ is an event that the gold is behind door $d_1$.

Next, you find out that doors $d_2,\dots,d_{N-1}$ have no gold, i.e. event $B$. That's new information, so you have to update your probabilities using Bayes theorem:

$$P(A|B) = \frac{P(B | A) \, P(A)}{P(B)}$$

Here, $P(B|A)=1/(N-1)$ is the probability that doors $d_1,\dots,d_{N-1}$ will be opened if the gold was behind the door $d_1$, or alternatively, the the door $d_N$ will not be opened given event $A$.

$$P(A|B) = \frac{\frac{1}{N-1} \, \frac{1}{N}}{P(B)}$$

Now, the to get $P(B)$ we need to sum all possibilities:

  • if gold is behind $d_1$, then $P(B|A)P(A)=\frac{1}{N-1}\frac{1}{N}$
  • if gold is behind one of $d_2,\dots,d_{N-1}$, then $P(B|d_1,\dots,d_{N-1})P(d_1,\dots,d_{N-1})=0$
  • if gold is behind $d_N$, then $P(B|d_N)P(d_N)=\frac{1}{N}$

So, we get $P(B)=\frac{1}{N}\frac{N}{N-1}=\frac{1}{N-1}$

Finally, $$P(A|B)=\frac{1}{N}$$, i.e. the probability that gold is behind door $d_1$ given that it's not behind doors $d_2,\dots,d_{N-1}$ is $1/N$, which means that the probability that it's behind the door $d_N$ is $1-1/N=\frac{N-1}{N}$, so you have to switch.

The Monty Hall logic is stronger for more doors. Here's the intuition. Imagine an infinite or very large $N$. What is a chance that you'll pick gold by randomly picking a door? Basically, ZERO. It's somewhere else.

Now, Monty comes and shows every door where there is NO gold. So, you just open the remaining door, gold is almost surely there. The Monty Hall problem is most difficult to comprehend when $N=3$, once you increase $N$ it's more and more evident that you've got to switch the doors.

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This sounds more like the old gag of sitting down with someone and saying to them with an incriminating look, "statistics show 1 out of 2 people is having an affair and it's not me".

In your context, say you estimate a disease prevalence of 1 in 1000 and you've ruled out the first 999 with your inexpensive test. That wouldn't mean the last person definitely has it unless you somehow knew at least one of those 1000 definitely had it.

In Monty Hall, there is a negative correlation in prize status between doors. In the patient setting, you would have to assume a negative correlation in disease status between patients. It's hard to imagine a setting where that would be the case.

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