First let me give some background; I will summarize my questions at the end.

The Beta distribution, parameterized by its mean $\mu$ and $\phi$, has $\operatorname{Var}(Y) = \operatorname{V}(\mu)/(\phi+1)$, where $\operatorname{V}(\mu) = \mu(1-\mu)$ is the variance function.

In a beta regression (e.g., using the betareg package in R), the regression assumes beta-distributed errors and estimates the fixed effects and the value of $\phi$.

In glm regression, it is possible to define a "quasi" distribution with a variance function of $\mu(1-\mu)$. So here the model assumes errors with the same variance function as Beta. The regression then estimates the fixed effects and the "dispersion" of the quasi distribution.

I may be missing something important, but it would seem that these two methods are essentially identical, perhaps differing only in their estimation method.

I tried both methods in R, regressing on a DV called "Similarity", which is in the interval $(0,1)$:

betareg(formula = Similarity ~ N + NK + Step_ent, data = TapData, link = "logit")

Coefficients (mean model with logit link):
             Estimate Std. Error z value Pr(>|z|)    
(Intercept)  0.715175   0.067805  10.547   <2e-16 ***
N           -0.063806   0.003858 -16.537   <2e-16 ***
NK          -0.362716   0.015008 -24.168   <2e-16 ***
Step_ent    -0.696895   0.070233  -9.923   <2e-16 ***

Phi coefficients (precision model with identity link):
      Estimate Std. Error z value Pr(>|z|)    
(phi)  10.6201     0.2084   50.96   <2e-16 ***
Signif. codes:  0 '***' 0.001 '**' 0.01 '*' 0.05 '.' 0.1 ' ' 1 

Type of estimator: ML (maximum likelihood)
Log-likelihood:  3817 on 5 Df
Pseudo R-squared: 0.2633
Number of iterations: 18 (BFGS) + 1 (Fisher scoring) 

glm(formula = Similarity ~ N + NK + Step_ent, family = quasi(link = "logit", 
variance = "mu(1-mu)"), data = TapData)

             Estimate Std. Error t value Pr(>|t|)    
(Intercept)  0.777451   0.069809  11.137   <2e-16 ***
N           -0.069348   0.003983 -17.411   <2e-16 ***
NK          -0.364702   0.016232 -22.468   <2e-16 ***
Step_ent    -0.704680   0.072491  -9.721   <2e-16 ***
Signif. codes:  0 ‘***’ 0.001 ‘**’ 0.01 ‘*’ 0.05 ‘.’ 0.1 ‘ ’ 1

(Dispersion parameter for quasi family taken to be 0.0838547)

    Null deviance: 566.25  on 4974  degrees of freedom
Residual deviance: 422.76  on 4971  degrees of freedom

Number of Fisher Scoring iterations: 4

The coefficients of the two models are similar, as are their standard errors. The $\phi$ parameter is also similar: I assume that the Dispersion parameter (as reported by glm) and $\phi$ have the following relationship $\phi = 1/\text{Dispersion} - 1$, in which case they are 10.6201 and 10.9254, respectively.

However, none of these values is identical.

Is this because the only thing that actually differs in the two methods is their estimation procedure? Or is there some more fundamental difference I am missing? Also, is there any reason to prefer one method over the other?

  • $\begingroup$ It sounds like you rediscovered fractional logistic regression... $\endgroup$ Commented Sep 23, 2017 at 17:32

2 Answers 2


You're correct that the mean and variance functions are of the same form.

This suggests that in very large samples, as long as you don't have observations really close to 1 or 0 they should tend to give quite similar answers because in that situation observations will have similar relative weights.

But in smaller samples where some of the continuous proportions approach the bounds, the differences can grow larger because the relative weights given by the two approaches will differ; if the points that get different weights are also relatively influential (more extreme in x-space), the differences may in some cases become substantial.

In beta-regression you'd be estimating via ML, and in the case of a quasibinomial model - at least one estimated in R, note this comment in the help:

The quasibinomial and quasipoisson families differ from the binomial and poisson families only in that the dispersion parameter is not fixed at one, so they can model over-dispersion. For the binomial case see McCullagh and Nelder (1989, pp. 124–8). Although they show that there is (under some restrictions) a model with variance proportional to mean as in the quasi-binomial model, note that glm does not compute maximum-likelihood estimates in that model. The behaviour of S is closer to the quasi- variants.

I think in betareg you can get $h_{ii}$ values, and you can as well for GLMs, so at the two fitted models you can compare an approximation of each observation's relative influence (/"weight") on its own fitted value (since the other components of the ratio of influences should cancel, or nearly so). This should give a quick sense of which observations are looked at most differently by the two approaches. [One might do it more exactly by actually tweaking the observations one by one and seeing the change in fit per unit change in value]

Note that the betareg vignette gives a very brief discussion of the connection between these models at the end of section 2, and a reference.

  • $\begingroup$ I assume by "samples" you are referring to observations of successes and failures? My DV "Similarity" is not a proportion of successes; it is the cosine similarity or two very high-dimensional vectors, and is bounded between 0 and 1 with no possibility of a value of 0 or 1. The beta distribution seems a reasonable choice for such data. The reason I am interested in transferring over to glm is because I wish to add a random effect too, which is not possible in betareg. I am trying to ascertain whether, in a scenario such as mine, quasi with mu(1-mu) is essentially the same. $\endgroup$ Commented Aug 22, 2016 at 4:08
  • $\begingroup$ I mean sample in the ordinary statistical sense, but I definitely don't mean a sample of counts. I mean a sample of continuous values between 0 and 1 (which are generally proportions for beta regression). If I was talking about modelling count proportions I wouldn't be talking about issues with being "close to" 0 or 1, I'd be talking about the larger problems with being exactly at 0 and 1. $\endgroup$
    – Glen_b
    Commented Aug 22, 2016 at 4:23
  • $\begingroup$ Thanks for the clarification. I am probably missing something obvious, but it's not clear to me why sample size (in the traditional sense you mean) is relevant here, or why values close to 0 or 1 would be treated differently in the beta versus pseudo glm approach. Can you expound a little? $\endgroup$ Commented Aug 22, 2016 at 4:55
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    $\begingroup$ @Andrew With increasing sample sizes, log-likelihoods become more nearly quadratic near the maximum/estimates for these models become closer to multivariate Gaussian, and in that case, moments to second order tend to determine behavior. That's why with large $n$ they should tend to give the same answers. However, the functions being optimized do actually differ at finite sample size - with relative differences becoming more important at the extremes. As a result, if you get observations really close to 0 or 1, it may make a difference to the estimates, particularly if the $n$ isn't so large. $\endgroup$
    – Glen_b
    Commented Aug 22, 2016 at 5:50
  • $\begingroup$ I went and looked at the betareg vignette hoping for more detail and am a little disappointed: AFAICS all it says is "In such a situation [i.e. when the data are counts rather than continuous], the fixed dispersion beta regression is similar to the quasi-binomial model (McCullagh and Nelder 1989) but fully parametric. Furthermore, it can be naturally extended to variable dispersions." $\endgroup$
    – Ben Bolker
    Commented Oct 4, 2023 at 19:28

One of the simpler differences between the models is that the glm is generalised linear model and the beta regression is not. The glm will thus reproduce means: the mean of the fitted values is exactly the mean of the data, whether the model is a good or poor fit. The beta regression does not do this. Similarly, the scaled Pearson residuals $ (y-\mu)/(\phi\mu(1-\mu))$ have exactly unit variance for the glm, but not necessarily for the beta regression.

In general, when the data do come from a beta distribution, the models will estimate the same parameters (and so will be closer as you get more data), but when the data do not come from a beta distribution they will not estimate the same parameters.


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