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I'll propose this question by means of an example.

Suppose I have a data set, such as the boston housing price data set, in which I have continuous and categorical variables. Here, we have a "quality" variable, from 1 to 10, and the sale price. I can separate the data into "low", "medium" and "high" quality houses by (arbitrarily) creating cutoffs for the quality. Then, using these groupings, I can plot histograms of the sale price against each other. Like so:

housing quality and sale price

Here, "low" is $\leq 3$, and "high" is $>7$ on the "quality" score. We now have a distribution of the sale prices for each of the three groups. It is clear that there is a difference in the center of location for the medium and high quality houses. Now, having done all this, I think "Hm. There appears to be a difference in center of location! Why don't I do a t-test on the means?". Then, I get a p-value that appears to correctly reject the null hypothesis that there is no difference in means.

Now, suppose that I had nothing in mind for testing this hypothesis until I plotted the data.

Is this data dredging?

Is it still data dredging if I thought: "Hm, I bet the higher quality houses cost more, since I am a human that has lived in a house before. I'm going to plot the data. Ah ha! Looks different! Time to t-test!"

Naturally, it is not data-dredging if the data set were collected with the intention of testing this hypothesis from the get-go. But often one has to work with data sets given to us, and are told to "look for patterns". How does someone avoid data dredging with this vague task in mind? Create hold out sets for testing data? Does visualization "count" as snooping for an opportunity to test a hypothesis suggested by the data?

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Briefly disagreeing with/giving a counterpoint to @ingolifs's answer: yes, visualizing your data is essential. But visualizing before deciding on the analysis leads you into Gelman and Loken's garden of forking paths. This is not the same as data-dredging or p-hacking, partly through intent (the GoFP is typically well-meaning) and partly because you may not run more than one analysis. But it is a form of snooping: because your analysis is data-dependent, it can lead you to false or overconfident conclusions.

You should in some way determine what your intended analysis is (e.g. "high quality houses should be higher in price") and write it down (or even officially preregister it) before looking at your data (it's OK to look at your predictor variables in advance, just not the response variable(s), but if you really have no a priori ideas then you don't even know which variables might be predictors and which might be responses); if your data suggest some different or additional analyses, then your write-up can state both what you meant to do initially and what (and why) you ended up doing it.

If you are really doing pure exploration (i.e., you have no a priori hypotheses, you just want to see what's in the data):

  • your thoughts about holding out a sample for confirmation are good.
    • In my world (I don't work with huge data sets) the loss of resolution due to having a lower sample size would be agonizing
    • you need to be a bit careful in selecting your holdout sample if your data are structured in any way (geographically, time series, etc. etc.). Subsampling as though the data are iid leads to overconfidence (see Wenger and Olden Methods in Ecology and Evolution 2012), so you might want to pick out geographic units to hold out (see DJ Harris Methods in Ecology and Evolution 2015 for an example)
  • you can admit that you're being purely exploratory. Ideally you would eschew p-values entirely in this case, but at least telling your audience that you are wandering in the GoFP lets them know that they can take the p-values with enormous grains of salt.

My favorite reference for "safe statistical practices" is Harrell's Regression Modeling Strategies (Springer); he lays out best practices for inference vs. prediction vs. exploration, in a rigorous but practical way.

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    $\begingroup$ Very well put! I expect to refer people to this answer in the future. $\endgroup$ Jul 1, 2018 at 4:40
  • $\begingroup$ Exactly the kind of response I was looking for, thank you. I have credited this response as an answer. Do you know of any resources that teach safe statistical practices? Perhaps a little wider in scope than the (excellent) articles you have posted $\endgroup$
    – Marcel
    Jul 1, 2018 at 20:09
  • $\begingroup$ Great answer (+1), but I disagree that this is any different to data-dredging; intent is irrelevant - the effect is the same. $\endgroup$
    – Ben
    Jul 2, 2018 at 7:31
  • $\begingroup$ I actually think it's worth maintaining the distinction between different forms of snooping. Dredging is arguably more severe because it involves (1) multiple explicit tests rather than multiple implicit tests and (2) conditional/continued testing until p<0.05 (or whatever) is achieved. The qualitative effect is certainly the same. $\endgroup$
    – Ben Bolker
    Jul 2, 2018 at 20:15
  • $\begingroup$ Ben, if you steal a glance at a scatterplot of your data then look away (no cheating!), does that use up fewer degrees of freedom but still give you some valuable guidance for modelling? :-) $\endgroup$
    – RobertF
    Aug 17 at 15:24
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Visualising the data is an indispensable part of analysis and one of the first things you should do with an unfamiliar data set. A quick eyeball of the data can inform the steps to take next. Indeed, it should be fairly obvious by looking at the graph that the means are different, and I'm not sure why a T-test was necessary to confirm this - the means are sufficiently separated that the graph itself is all the evidence I would require.

Data dredging, as far as I can tell from a quick wikipedia-ing, is a deliberate process of mucking around with the data to force certain levels of fit. Examples would be: Comparing a data set to some random numbers, but regenerating the random numbers until you get a set of favourable ones or trying out a large number of different forms of regression and choosing the one with the best $R^2$ regardless of whether the assumptions are appropriate. Data dredging doesn't appear to be something you can easily do by accident.

I think there's a deeper question in here though. How do you maintain a zen-like neutrality and avoid bias when dealing with data in a scientific way? The answer is, you don't. Or rather, you don't have to. Forming hunches and hypotheses and building a mental narrative of what the data means, is all perfectly natural and acceptable, provided you are aware that you are doing so, and are mentally prepared to reconsider all these hypotheses when confronted with conflicting data.

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    $\begingroup$ Visualizing data before running tests may be innocuous in this specific case. However, one would next visualize another dimension... and another one... and look at scatterplots... and soon enough, one will find something that looks "obvious enough" so that a formal test and a narrative come naturally. Oh yes, data dredging is definitely something that you can easily do by accident. See Gelman's "Garden of forking paths". $\endgroup$ Jul 1, 2018 at 12:02

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