X is binomially distributed, and Y is binomially distributed. What distribution does X+Y follow?

We know that

$X$ follows $\mathrm{Bin}(n_1,p_1)$, $Y$ follows $\mathrm{Bin}(n_2,p_2)$, $X$ and $Y$ are independent. What does $X+Y$ follow?

I know the answer, that if $p_1=p_2=p$ then $X+Y$ follow $\mathrm{Bin}(n_1+n_2,p)$ but I do not quite get it. I tried to match $X+Y$ to the criterion of Bin distribution:

• Success/fail
• Independence, yes since Y and X are independent, and all $X$'s are independent with themselves, and all Y's are independent with themselves.
• same p. yes, If we are allowed to assume that.

Also, what more can we say about $X+Y$?

• Do you mean: you're throwing a die and flipping a coin. You then look at the sum of 'one's + 'head's? Feb 14, 2014 at 11:51
• The situation at hand is not given, although yes your situation seem to be accurate since X: # of 1 follows Bin and Y: # of heads follow Bin Feb 14, 2014 at 12:28
• This thread is related to this question. Feb 14, 2014 at 13:03
• A very closely related thread at stats.stackexchange.com/questions/5347 addresses this question for the case of more than two binomial variables (with a focus on a much larger number of them). Of course all the exact solutions offered there apply to this simpler case!
– whuber
Feb 14, 2014 at 15:49

This is the Poisson-binomial distribution.

A number of answers here discuss this distribution.

We can say a number of things about it. Here are a few examples:

• we can compute its mean and variance using basic properties of mean and of variance under independence.

* with the proviso that if two adjacent outcomes are equally maximally probable, we still call that 'unimodal'.

• if both $p_i$ values are very small, $X+Y$ may be well approximated by a Poisson distribution

• Le Cam's theorem applies to it

we might say many more things.

• Can you provide a proof for this more simple case? Feb 16, 2014 at 15:22
• A proof of what? Feb 16, 2014 at 23:10
• Proce that if $X$ follows $\mathrm{Bin}(n_1,p_1)$, $Y$ follows $\mathrm{Bin}(n_2,p_2)$, $X$ and $Y$ are independent, and $p_1=p_2=p$ then $X+Y$ follow $\mathrm{Bin}(n_1+n_2,p)$. Feb 17, 2014 at 14:29
• That would definitely fall under the 'routine question' part of the self-study tag wiki info (q.v.), to which helpful hints would be given if you show us where you had difficulty. The deleted answer by @Zen was the start of one way to approach that question. (I presume it got deleted because you asked about the Poisson binomial, a more complicated question to which his answer wasn't as directly useful.) -- what have you tried? Feb 17, 2014 at 18:11