Questions tagged [cross-entropy]
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How to interpret when using hinge loss performs a lot better than cross-entropy loss in a multi-class clasification problem?"
Given that hinge loss is based on the marginal loss in SVM, is there any reasonable assumption / interpretation one can make on the topology of the dataset, when using multi-class hinge loss ...
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How to compute weight change for hidden layers with cross-entropy loss? [duplicate]
I'm trying to train a neural net with
1 hidden layer (RELU)
softmax output layer
cross-entropy loss
stochastic gradient descent
My implementation seems to work fine when I don't use any hidden ...
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Cross-Entropy Cost Function : Why to apply partial derivative twice? [closed]
Here my question is Why do we need to apply partial derivative twice on the cross entropy cost function? Why not only single time ?
Here is the image for reference:
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How does cross entropy loss get calculated in overconfident neural networks?
Given formula for categorical formula for cross entropy:
or binary forumla:
how is cross entropy calculated in overconfident neural netowrks (especially CNNs where this phenomenon is common), e.g. ...
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Softmax with Cross Entropy optimization vs Backpropagation
I am following a tutorial from Analytics Vidhya on creating a neural network to recognize handwritten digits (the classic example).
The code from the tutorial states "First we need to define the ...
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Binary cross-entropy: plugging in probability 0
There is an answer on the Kaggle question board here by Dr. Fuzzy:
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Name/definition of $\int \log F(x) \cdot g(x)dx$?
We know that:
$$-\int \log f(x) \cdot g(x)dx,$$
where $f$ and $g$ are density functions, is known as the cross entropy. Does
$$-\int \log F(x) \cdot g(x)dx,$$
where $F$ is the cumulative ...
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Label smoothing formula
I recently came across this paper in section 3.2 it talks about label smoothing loss and how it's equivalent to s equivalent to adding the KL divergence between the uniform distribution u and the ...
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What should the form of error be on CrossEntropy or KL-divergence loss function across samples of distributions?
Suppose your model produces (discrete) probability distributions and you have some truth distributions you want to compare to.
For each sample $i$, you can compute the loss as the KL divergence or ...
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Deriving gradient of cross entropy from the cross entropy
I was trying to derive the third equation from the cross entropy of a conditional bernoulli distribution. But I just can't seem to find out how gradient $\mathbf z^{(i)}$ came out. Can someone please ...
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Neural Networks output functions [duplicate]
Studying about neural networks as a newbie, I learned (I think) about the different types of output functions, but I have been confused when to use each. (softmax, cross-entropy, sigmoid, none)
For ...
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Analytical expression of the minimizer of cross entropy loss when the predicted function is a constant fucntion?
Let $\{y_1...y_n\} \in \{0,1\}$, and let $c \in [0,1]$. Define the cross-entropy of loss of $c$ by:
$$C(c): = \sum_{j=1}^{n}- y_j ln c - (1- y_j) ln (1-c) $$.
Define $c*= arg min _{c} C(c)$
Is ...
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Why is binary cross entropy (or log loss) used in autoencoders for non-binary data
I am working on an autoencoder for non-binary data ranging in [0,1] and while I was exploring existing solutions I noticed that in many people (e.g., the keras ...
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Convexity of cross entropy
I am not sure if this is a better fit for this site or mathematics.stackexchange but I've seen similar questions on here before. I'd like to know if the following is true and if so, how I could go ...
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my CNN predict all 0 or all 1 in multi label classification problem
I am trying to build a CNN for classifying multiple objects in images. I'm on keras and I use the COCO dataset. my net takes in input a 256x256 image and outputs the vector of the predictions of each ...
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In multiclass classification with K classes does cross entropy loss need K outputs or K-1?
Hastie's "The Elements of Statistical Learning" textbook defines the probabilistic model of multiclass logistic regression with K classes as $\forall k \in \{1, \dots, K-1\} $
$$ \ln \frac{p(G=k \mid ...
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cross entropy loss max value
The cross entropy loss function for multiclass can be computed as:
$$-\sum\limits_{i=1}^N y_i log \hat{y}_i$$
where $y_i$ is a class and $\hat{y}_i$ the estimated probability. The minimum value is $0$ ...
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how to consider some miss classifications “half correct” in categorical_crossentropy - for a trading system
I have a trading system where the model receives 9 time-series and predict :
A - strong down
B - week down
C - neutral
D - week up
E - strong up
(these classes ...
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Why is loss treated as 0 or infinity here?
I'm reading a beginner's book about deep learning and in the introduction, the following cautionary tale is written:
Now, assume that you built a classifier and trained it to predict if a mushroom ...
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loss='categorical_crossentropy' VS loss=K.categorical_crossentropy
Why I have very different loss values in training using these two lines code to define the loss function?
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Softmax Loss vs Binary Loss for classification?
I was trying to understand the final section of the paper "Revisiting Baselines for Visual Question Answering". Authors state that their model performs better with a binary loss in comparison to a ...
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Cross entropy vs KL divergence and SGD
I was told recently that stochastic gradient descent can be used to minimize a cross entropy objective function but not a KL-divergence one, even if the two minimization problems are equivalent, ie
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Cross - entropy for two variables with different prob. distributions
Let us say that we have given two random variables with different prob. distributions:
A = [0.1, 0, 0.5, ...]
B = [0.3, 0.1, 0.03, ...]
What should I do when I want to compute the reformulated cross-...
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Approach to prevent bias/racism in neural network fitting?
I have a dataset comprised of different ethnic groups and I want to build a classification model on this data. When I do this I find that the performance of the algorithm is better on some groups than ...
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Cross entropy loss: inconsistency in formula
I have a couple of problems trying to understand the exact formula for cross entropy loss. Depending on the source I see it written different ways.
Is the log() function $\log_2()$?
Is the argument ...
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Binary cross etropy loss with non binary ground truth data [closed]
Is it possible to use binary cross etropy loss with non binary ground truth data, i.e. not [0,1] values, but [0,0.1,0.5,1.0] ...
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Relative Entropy decomposition
Can the relative entropy (Kullback Leibler divergence) between multivariate distributions be decomposed into relative entropies of the different variables plus some measure of dependence between the ...
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Gradient of the cross entropy loss function
I have been puzzled by how to calculate the derivative of the following cross entropy loss function underlying my neural network:
CEloss = $\frac{-1}{N} \sum_{n=1}^{N} \sum_{k=1}^{K} t_{n,k} \log y_{...
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Cross Entopy Loss for classification
Suppose I have a neural network, which classifies pictures of cats, dogs and fishes. The neural network uses Softmax as an activation function of the output layer.
Let's say I feed a picture of dog ...
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Interpretation of learning curve (training & validation)
I know what a learning curve representative of an "ideal" overfitting looks like. However, I am not 100% sure how to interpret the learning curve shown below. Why does the model sometimes seem to "...
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How to construct a cross-entropy loss for general regression targets?
It's common short-hand in neural networks literature to refer to categorical cross-entropy loss as "cross-entropy," even though there are a number of loss functions which could properly be described ...
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Cross Entropy Loss for One Hot Encoding
CE-loss sums up the loss over all output nodes
$\sum_i[ - target_i*\log(output_i) ]$.
The derivative of CE-loss is: $- \frac{target_i}{output_i}$.
Since for a target=0 the loss and derivative of ...
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Feed-forward neural network (MSE and Cross-entropy) questions
Question 1
Why do we divide by the number of data points (N)? I think it's done to minimize the error being back-propagated, but can't we just don't do that and instead decrease the learning rate to ...
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Difference of notation between cross entropy and joint entropy
Although it is clear to me, how the two concepts differs, it has been difficult for me to find a notation that would make it clear, to which type of entropy we refer.
From wikipedia, we can see that ...
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How can I maximise binary cross entropy loss?
I have a multi-task learning model with two binary classification tasks. One part of the model creates a shared feature representation that is fed into two subnets in parallel. The loss function for ...
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Why is cross entropy not a common evaluation metric for model performance?
When we train a classifier, we use cross entropy as a loss function and, for example, an F-Score as an evaluation metric, but why?
Why not use cross entropy on the test set to evaluate the model ...
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Why is the cross-entropy always more than the entropy?
I understand intuitively why cross-entropy is always bigger. However, could someone show that mathematically?
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Why binary crossentropy can be used as the loss function in autoencoders?
I was wondering why binary crossentropy can be used as the loss function in autoencoders trained on (normalized) images, e.g. here or this paper? I know that binary crossentropy can be used in binray ...
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How to calculate negative log-likelihoog on MNIST dataset? [duplicate]
This table is from Professor Forcing: A New Algorithm for Training Recurrent Networks paper. I couldn't find their code to calculate NLL. I would like to ask if it is simply the binary cross-entropy. ...
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Does it make sense to use `logit` or `softplus` loss for binary classification problem?
With $z$ is the logit, $p \in \{1, 0\}$ is the class. Usually binary classification problem use sigmoid and cross-entropy to compute loss:
$$\mathcal{L_1} = - \sum{p \log \sigma(z) + (1-p) \log \sigma(...
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Is there an alternative to categorical cross-entropy with a notion of “class distance”?
I have a signal $ x \in \mathbb{R}^{t \times l} $ which is discretized into $ l = 32 $ levels for $ t = 100000 $ time points. This enables me to turn a regression problem into a classification problem,...
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Why does cross entropy loss for validation dataset deteriorate far more than validation accuracy when a CNN is overfitting?
I have noticed that the cross-entropy loss for validation dataset deteriorates after a certain number of epochs when training CNN's or MLP's. This is, of course, the sign that the network is ...
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Why we use log function for cross entropy?
I'm learning about a binary classifier.
It uses the cross-entropy function as its loss function.
$y_i \log p_i + (1-y_i) \log(1-p_i)$
But why does it use the log function?
How about just use linear ...
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Describing relative performance of models on the basis on log-loss / cross-entropy
Suppose I train classification algorithms on a given dataset with three model specifications: A, B, and C. On validation data, model A has an average log-loss of 1.0, model B has a log-loss of 0.75, ...
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Maximum likelihood estimation and $\log(0)$
I am thinking I can't be the only one encountering this. I am trying to do maximum likelihood estimation on a probit model, i.e. trying to find the most optimal fit for three parameters in my case ...
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the relationship between maximizing the likelihood and minimizing the cross-entropy
There is a statement that maximizing the likelihood is equivalent to minimizing the cross-entropy. Are there any proof for this statement?
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Computing Gini index and cross-entropy for a dendrogram
I am trying to calculate purity of clusters obtained through hierarchical clustering. I followed this tutorial here: Decision tree learning
My question is: is computing these measures the same for ...
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Proof for the efficiency of Softmax in multi-classification
I already search for this question but I can't find any convincing explanation so I want to ask it here. my problem is with softmax activation function and cross-entropy.why they can produce a better ...
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What is the correct answer for cross entropy in this case?
I have two neural networks: NN1 and NN2, predicting Dog and Cat. The probabilities are below:
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What is the difference Cross-entropy and KL divergence?
Both of Cross-entropy and KL divergence are tools to measure the distance between two probability distribution. What is the difference?
$$ H(P,Q) = -\sum_x P(x)\log Q(x) $$
$$ KL(P | Q) = \sum_{x} P(...
