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This is almost a duplicateduplicate; the linked question explains that you shouldn't expect the coefficient estimates, residual deviance, nor degrees of freedom to change. The only thing that changes when moving from Poisson to quasi-Poisson is that a scale parameter that was previously fixed to 1 is computed from some estimate of residual variability/badness-of-fit (usually estimated via the sum of squares of the Pearson residuals ($\chi^2$) divided by the residual df, although asymptotically using the residual deviance gives the same result). The result is that the standard errors are scaled by the square root of this scale parameter, with concomitant changes in the confidence intervals and $p$-values.

The benefit of quasi-likelihood is that it fixes the basic fallacy of assuming that the data are Poisson (= homogeneous, independent counts); however, fixing the problem in this way potentially masks other issues with the data. (See below.) Quasi-likelihood is one way of handling overdispersion; if you don't address overdispersion in some way, your coefficients will be reasonable but your inference (CIs, $p$-values, etc.) will be garbage.

  • As you comment above, there are lots of different approaches to overdispersion (Tweedie, different negative binomial parameterizations, quasi-likelihood, zero-inflation/alteration).
  • With an overdispersion factor of >5 (8.4), I would worry a bit about whether it is being driven by some kind of model mis-fit (outliers, zero-inflation [which I see you've already tried], nonlinearity) rather than representing across-the-board heterogeneity. My general approach to this is graphical exploration of the raw data and regression diagnostics ...

This is almost a duplicate; the linked question explains that you shouldn't expect the coefficient estimates, residual deviance, nor degrees of freedom to change. The only thing that changes when moving from Poisson to quasi-Poisson is that a scale parameter that was previously fixed to 1 is computed from some estimate of residual variability/badness-of-fit (usually estimated via the sum of squares of the Pearson residuals ($\chi^2$) divided by the residual df, although asymptotically using the residual deviance gives the same result). The result is that the standard errors are scaled by the square root of this scale parameter, with concomitant changes in the confidence intervals and $p$-values.

The benefit of quasi-likelihood is that it fixes the basic fallacy of assuming that the data are Poisson (= homogeneous, independent counts); however, fixing the problem in this way potentially masks other issues with the data. (See below.) Quasi-likelihood is one way of handling overdispersion; if you don't address overdispersion in some way, your coefficients will be reasonable but your inference (CIs, $p$-values, etc.) will be garbage.

  • As you comment above, there are lots of different approaches to overdispersion (Tweedie, different negative binomial parameterizations, quasi-likelihood, zero-inflation/alteration).
  • With an overdispersion factor of >5 (8.4), I would worry a bit about whether it is being driven by some kind of model mis-fit (outliers, zero-inflation [which I see you've already tried], nonlinearity) rather than representing across-the-board heterogeneity. My general approach to this is graphical exploration of the raw data and regression diagnostics ...

This is almost a duplicate; the linked question explains that you shouldn't expect the coefficient estimates, residual deviance, nor degrees of freedom to change. The only thing that changes when moving from Poisson to quasi-Poisson is that a scale parameter that was previously fixed to 1 is computed from some estimate of residual variability/badness-of-fit (usually estimated via the sum of squares of the Pearson residuals ($\chi^2$) divided by the residual df, although asymptotically using the residual deviance gives the same result). The result is that the standard errors are scaled by the square root of this scale parameter, with concomitant changes in the confidence intervals and $p$-values.

The benefit of quasi-likelihood is that it fixes the basic fallacy of assuming that the data are Poisson (= homogeneous, independent counts); however, fixing the problem in this way potentially masks other issues with the data. (See below.) Quasi-likelihood is one way of handling overdispersion; if you don't address overdispersion in some way, your coefficients will be reasonable but your inference (CIs, $p$-values, etc.) will be garbage.

  • As you comment above, there are lots of different approaches to overdispersion (Tweedie, different negative binomial parameterizations, quasi-likelihood, zero-inflation/alteration).
  • With an overdispersion factor of >5 (8.4), I would worry a bit about whether it is being driven by some kind of model mis-fit (outliers, zero-inflation [which I see you've already tried], nonlinearity) rather than representing across-the-board heterogeneity. My general approach to this is graphical exploration of the raw data and regression diagnostics ...
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This is almost a duplicate; the linked question explains that you shouldn't expect the coefficient estimates, residual deviance, nor degrees of freedom to change. The only thing that changes when moving from Poisson to quasi-Poisson is that a scale parameter that was previously fixed to 1 is computed from some estimate of residual variability/badness-of-fit (usually estimated via the sum of squares of the Pearson residuals ($\chi^2$) divided by the residual df, although asymptotically using the residual deviance gives the same result). The result is that the standard errors are scaled by the square root of this scale parameter, with concomitant changes in the confidence intervals and $p$-values.

The benefit of quasi-likelihood is that it fixes the basic fallacy of assuming that the data are Poisson (= homogeneous, independent counts); however, fixing the problem in this way potentially masks other issues with the data. (See below.) Quasi-likelihood is one way of handling overdispersion; if you don't address overdispersion in some way, your coefficients will be reasonable but your inference (CIs, $p$-values, etc.) will be garbage.

  • As you comment above, there are lots of different approaches to overdispersion (Tweedie, different negative binomial parameterizations, quasi-likelihood, zero-inflation/alteration).
  • With an overdispersion factor of >5 (8.4), I would worry a bit about whether it is being driven by some kind of model mis-fit (outliers, zero-inflation [which I see you've already tried], nonlinearity) rather than representing across-the-board heterogeneity. My general approach to this is graphical exploration of the raw data and regression diagnostics ...

This is almost a duplicate; the linked question explains that you shouldn't expect the coefficient estimates, residual deviance, nor degrees of freedom to change. The only thing that changes when moving from Poisson to quasi-Poisson is that a scale parameter that was previously fixed to 1 is computed from some estimate of residual variability/badness-of-fit (usually estimated via the sum of squares of the Pearson residuals ($\chi^2$) divided by the residual df, although asymptotically using the residual deviance gives the same result). The result is that the standard errors are scaled by the square root of this scale parameter, with concomitant changes in the confidence intervals and $p$-values.

The benefit of quasi-likelihood is that it fixes the basic fallacy of assuming that the data are Poisson (= homogeneous, independent counts); however, fixing the problem in this way potentially masks other issues with the data. (See below.) Quasi-likelihood is one way of handling overdispersion; if you don't address overdispersion in some way, your coefficients will be reasonable but your inference (CIs, $p$-values, etc.) will be garbage.

  • As you comment above, there are lots of different approaches to overdispersion (Tweedie, different negative binomial parameterizations, quasi-likelihood).
  • With an overdispersion factor of >5 (8.4), I would worry a bit about whether it is being driven by some kind of model mis-fit (outliers, zero-inflation [which I see you've already tried], nonlinearity) rather than representing across-the-board heterogeneity. My general approach to this is graphical exploration of the raw data and regression diagnostics ...

This is almost a duplicate; the linked question explains that you shouldn't expect the coefficient estimates, residual deviance, nor degrees of freedom to change. The only thing that changes when moving from Poisson to quasi-Poisson is that a scale parameter that was previously fixed to 1 is computed from some estimate of residual variability/badness-of-fit (usually estimated via the sum of squares of the Pearson residuals ($\chi^2$) divided by the residual df, although asymptotically using the residual deviance gives the same result). The result is that the standard errors are scaled by the square root of this scale parameter, with concomitant changes in the confidence intervals and $p$-values.

The benefit of quasi-likelihood is that it fixes the basic fallacy of assuming that the data are Poisson (= homogeneous, independent counts); however, fixing the problem in this way potentially masks other issues with the data. (See below.) Quasi-likelihood is one way of handling overdispersion; if you don't address overdispersion in some way, your coefficients will be reasonable but your inference (CIs, $p$-values, etc.) will be garbage.

  • As you comment above, there are lots of different approaches to overdispersion (Tweedie, different negative binomial parameterizations, quasi-likelihood, zero-inflation/alteration).
  • With an overdispersion factor of >5 (8.4), I would worry a bit about whether it is being driven by some kind of model mis-fit (outliers, zero-inflation [which I see you've already tried], nonlinearity) rather than representing across-the-board heterogeneity. My general approach to this is graphical exploration of the raw data and regression diagnostics ...
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This is almost a duplicate; the linked question explains that you shouldn't expect the coefficient estimates, residual deviance, nor degrees of freedom to change. The only thing that changes when moving from Poisson to quasi-Poisson is that a scale parameter that was previously fixed to 1 is computed from some estimate of residual variability/badness-of-fit (usually estimated via the sum of squares of the Pearson residuals ($\chi^2$) divided by the residual df, although asymptotically using the residual deviance gives the same result). The result is that the standard errors are scaled by the square root of this scale parameter, with concomitant changes in the confidence intervals and $p$-values.

The benefit of quasi-likelihood is that it fixes the basic fallacy of assuming that the data are Poisson (= homogeneous, independent counts); however, fixing the problem in this way potentially masks other issues with the data. (See below.) Quasi-likelihood is one way of handling overdispersion; if you don't address overdispersion in some way, your coefficients will be reasonable but your inference (CIs, $p$-values, etc.) will be garbage.

  • As you comment above, there are lots of different approaches to overdispersion (Tweedie, different negative binomial parameterizations, quasi-likelihood).
  • With an overdispersion factor of >5 (8.4), I would worry a bit about whether it is being driven by some kind of model mis-fit (outliers, zero-inflation [which I see you've already tried], nonlinearity) rather than representing across-the-board heterogeneity. Quasi-likelihood will "fix" the basic fallacy of assuming that the data are Poisson (= homogeneous, independent counts), but could mask other issues with the data. My My general approach to this is graphical exploration of the raw data and regression diagnostics ...

This is almost a duplicate; the linked question explains that you shouldn't expect the coefficient estimates, residual deviance, nor degrees of freedom to change. The only thing that changes when moving from Poisson to quasi-Poisson is that a scale parameter that was previously fixed to 1 is computed from some estimate of residual variability/badness-of-fit (usually estimated via the sum of squares of the Pearson residuals ($\chi^2$) divided by the residual df, although asymptotically using the residual deviance gives the same result). The result is that the standard errors are scaled by the square root of this scale parameter, with concomitant changes in the confidence intervals and $p$-values.

  • As you comment above, there are lots of different approaches to overdispersion (Tweedie, different negative binomial parameterizations, quasi-likelihood).
  • With an overdispersion factor of >5 (8.4), I would worry a bit about whether it is being driven by some kind of model mis-fit (outliers, zero-inflation [which I see you've already tried], nonlinearity) rather than representing across-the-board heterogeneity. Quasi-likelihood will "fix" the basic fallacy of assuming that the data are Poisson (= homogeneous, independent counts), but could mask other issues with the data. My general approach to this is graphical exploration of the raw data and regression diagnostics ...

This is almost a duplicate; the linked question explains that you shouldn't expect the coefficient estimates, residual deviance, nor degrees of freedom to change. The only thing that changes when moving from Poisson to quasi-Poisson is that a scale parameter that was previously fixed to 1 is computed from some estimate of residual variability/badness-of-fit (usually estimated via the sum of squares of the Pearson residuals ($\chi^2$) divided by the residual df, although asymptotically using the residual deviance gives the same result). The result is that the standard errors are scaled by the square root of this scale parameter, with concomitant changes in the confidence intervals and $p$-values.

The benefit of quasi-likelihood is that it fixes the basic fallacy of assuming that the data are Poisson (= homogeneous, independent counts); however, fixing the problem in this way potentially masks other issues with the data. (See below.) Quasi-likelihood is one way of handling overdispersion; if you don't address overdispersion in some way, your coefficients will be reasonable but your inference (CIs, $p$-values, etc.) will be garbage.

  • As you comment above, there are lots of different approaches to overdispersion (Tweedie, different negative binomial parameterizations, quasi-likelihood).
  • With an overdispersion factor of >5 (8.4), I would worry a bit about whether it is being driven by some kind of model mis-fit (outliers, zero-inflation [which I see you've already tried], nonlinearity) rather than representing across-the-board heterogeneity. My general approach to this is graphical exploration of the raw data and regression diagnostics ...
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