Timeline for The more important statistic: '90 percent of all women survived' or '90 percent of all those who survived were women'?
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| Jul 9, 2018 at 13:19 | comment | added | Aksakal | @RahulSaha In that case, Statement 2 is more useful, see my answer | |
| Jul 9, 2018 at 13:13 | answer | added | Aksakal | timeline score: 0 | |
| Jul 9, 2018 at 6:23 | comment | added | Don Hatch | @RahulSaha you left it open to interpretation on purpose? I wish you wouldn't do that; it makes me feel like our time has been wasted speculating and arguing about what you meant. | |
| Jul 7, 2018 at 15:21 | comment | added | Barmar | @RahulSaha It's not needed for statement 2, because the comparison is implicit: only 10% of the survivors were men. | |
| Jul 7, 2018 at 15:20 | comment | added | Barmar | @RahulSaha But if 95% of men survived, the implication might be that they gave even higher priority to men. That's why a comparison is needed. | |
| Jul 7, 2018 at 4:30 | comment | added | rahs | @Barmar Initially I was thinking of what the perspective of a rescue operations worker might have been, for the given statistic in statement 1 (maybe something like, "We must try and save as many women as possible"). And I thought maybe since the rescue guy is only thinking about women, it doesn't indicate anything about the probability of men surviving - the rescuers wouldn't not save men, right? So don't we still get the information that the rescue operators were going to try and save women (we don't know about men) so as a woman you had a greater than 90% chance of surviving. | |
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| Jul 7, 2018 at 3:37 | comment | added | rahs | @Aksakal Good point. I thought of the question when trying to solve a Kaggle problem ("are women more likely to survive?") , but then started wondering if one of these stats almost certainly had more significance than the other when thinking of all possible scenarios where they would be needed. This led to the question being more vague than I had hoped for it to be (wary of the justified dislike of the SO community for such questions). Yet I couldn't resist leaving it slightly open to interpretation to see if people could provide the situations corresponding to statements as well. | |
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| Jul 6, 2018 at 23:15 | comment | added | Barmar | The first statement is not meaningful without a comparable statistic for men. | |
| Jul 6, 2018 at 20:57 | answer | added | Don Hatch | timeline score: 3 | |
| Jul 6, 2018 at 20:09 | comment | added | Don Hatch | "The first indicates that saving women was probably of high priority (irrespective of whether saving men was)". Huh? I'm having trouble even articulating what's wrong with that statement-- does it mean anything at all? | |
| Jul 6, 2018 at 18:37 | answer | added | knrumsey | timeline score: 3 | |
| Jul 6, 2018 at 17:56 | comment | added | meh | I would say that depends on whether you are a woman or not ! | |
| Jul 6, 2018 at 17:32 | answer | added | Acccumulation | timeline score: 7 | |
| Jul 6, 2018 at 17:27 | history | tweeted | twitter.com/StackStats/status/1015286080231395329 | ||
| Jul 6, 2018 at 17:20 | comment | added | Nemo | Surprised none of these answers has mentioned Simpson's Paradox | |
| Jul 6, 2018 at 14:27 | comment | added | Aksakal | more useful for what purpose? | |
| Jul 6, 2018 at 11:02 | answer | added | Frank Harrell | timeline score: 18 | |
| Jul 6, 2018 at 10:35 | history | edited | Stephan Kolassa |
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| Jul 6, 2018 at 10:34 | answer | added | Stephan Kolassa | timeline score: 55 | |
| Jul 6, 2018 at 10:11 | history | edited | rahs | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Jul 6, 2018 at 10:05 | history | edited | kjetil b halvorsen♦ |
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| Jul 6, 2018 at 10:01 | history | asked | rahs | CC BY-SA 4.0 |