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Power analysis for Receiver Operating Characteristic (ROC) curves in R

Concordance probabilities, AKA $c$-index or AUROC are decent measures of pure predictive discrimination but are not recommended for comparison of two models, because of low power. Taking the differen …
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Comparison of roc-auc values ​through cross-validation for feature selection

The concordance probability (AUROC) is not sensitive enough for comparing models. Use a sensitive measure such as mean squared error, log-likelihood, AIC. Related information is here.
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Delong's test for comparing the significance difference of two AUC

Comparing AUROC curves is equivalent to comparing two Wilcoxon test statistics, as the AUROC with binary Y is the $c$-index, i.e., concordance probability that is a unitless version of the Wilcoxon te …
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How to calculate p-value to compare AUPRC for two models?

Concordance probabilities ($c$ index; AUROC) are not sensitive enough to lead to good power for comparing models. Differences in AUROC are the same as differences in two Wilcoxon-Mann-Whitney test st …
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cutoff and auc and changing cutoff

ROC, sensitivity, and specificity have nothing to do with decision making as they are all in reverse time and information-flow order. …
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Area under the ROC curve when there is imbalance: is there a problem, and if not, why does t...

The area under the ROC curve (AUROC) equals the Wilcoxon-Mann-Whitney-Somers concordance probability, a $U$-statistic, i.e., take all possible pairs of an observation with Y=0 and an observation with Y … Likewise every point on the ROC curve conditions on Y so the entire curve is conditional on Y. Each point is made up of probabilities like $\Pr(X > x | Y=y)$ ($y=0$ for x-axis, $y=1$ for y-axis). …
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Choosing a Cut-Off Value from an ROC Curve for a Cross Validated Dataset

Choosing cutoffs in general, and in particular based on indexes derived from retrospective sampling (ROC curve, sens, spec), is a process that is completely at odds with decision making, which is a fully …
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Is there a good reason for using AUROC on imbalanced dataset?

The AUROC, better understood as the concordance probability between predicted and observed values, has no problem with highly imbalanced data other than having a higher standard error than when the ou …
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Extension of the relationship between ROCAUC/c-index and Wilcoxon-Mann-Whitney U

In extending If you like the Wilcoxon test you must like the proportional odds model I have simulations studying the concordance probabilities arising from the Kruskal-Wallis multi-group rank ANOVA s …
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Are non-crossing ROC curves sufficient to rank classifiers by expected loss?

ROC curves are incompatible with optimal decision making because each point on the curve conditions on the future to predict the past. See https://www.fharrell.com/post/mlconfusion. …
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Why is ROC insensitive to class distributions?

Since all points on an ROC curve condition on Y, the distribution of Y is necessarily irrelevant for the points. … This also points out why ROC curves should not be used except in a retrospective case-control study where samples are taken from Y=0 and Y=1 observations. …
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Can I use the ROC curve to compare two distributions?

See Dana Quade's pair chart which relates to the Wilcoxon-Mann-Whitney two-sample rank-sum test.
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Comparing test and validation ROC curves statistically

ROC curves are not something you validate. Instead validate absolute predictive accuracy by estimating a smooth calibration curve (predicted probability vs. actual probability that Y=1). … You can validate the ROC area (c-index; Wilcoxon-Mann-Whitney concordance probability) as a measure of pure discrimination. But other indexes are better. …
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Comparing the discriminative ability of two comorbidity indices for mortality: should I go f...

Plotting the ROC will not help in any way. …
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How to test significance of two ROC with MLeval

Concordance probability (AUROC; c-index) are not appropriate for comparing two models, because of lack of statistical power. See fharrell.com/post/addvalue for measures that are sensitive enough to b …
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